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2015-12-03 13:49:45 +0000 <ircbrowse> :)
2015-12-03 13:51:18 +0000rubenwardy(~rubenward@unaffiliated/rubenwardy)
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2015-12-03 14:27:55 +0000 <JazzyEagle> Heya, ircbrowse
2015-12-03 14:28:12 +0000 <JazzyEagle> Sorry, just got back from errands. Is this your first time in the channel?
2015-12-03 14:29:23 +0000snacks(~me@124-168-183-214.dyn.iinet.net.au)
2015-12-03 14:47:23 +0000singpolyma(~singpolym@CPE10feedfaaf7d-CM0c473d2b7590.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
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2015-12-03 15:10:55 +0000 <JazzyEagle> fpbot: tell wolftune The additional features I was referring to on the old navbar include account balance & total monthly pledge. The old widget had DB calls to pull that data in, but they're not in defaultLayoutNew. I'm assuming we'd want to throw those DB pulls into a Model function somewhere, though. Not sure where.
2015-12-03 15:10:55 +0000 <fpbot> JazzyEagle, your memo for wolftune has been saved.
2015-12-03 15:33:21 +0000chreekat(~b@unaffiliated/chreekat)
2015-12-03 15:34:47 +0000 <chreekat> fyi ircbrowse is a bot. :) I "requested" (https://github.com/chrisdone/ircbrowse/pull/13) that Snowdrift get added and it did!
2015-12-03 15:34:59 +0000 <chreekat> So now we have a gorgeous irc log: http://ircbrowse.net/snowdrift
2015-12-03 15:35:04 +0000 <JazzyEagle> chreekat: Ahhh, that would explain the lack of response. :)
2015-12-03 15:52:38 +0000MSiep(~Thunderbi@75-166-111-224.hlrn.qwest.net)
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2015-12-03 16:45:56 +0000wolftune(~aaron@75-164-147-136.ptld.qwest.net)
2015-12-03 16:47:02 +0000 <wolftune> chreekat: better than http://botbot.me/ ?
2015-12-03 16:47:28 +0000 <wolftune> chreekat: and if we're moving to public logging, we should warn people / add it to the topic…
2015-12-03 16:47:54 +0000 <wolftune> I have mixed feelings about public logging, mostly positive but som trepidation
2015-12-03 16:48:53 +0000 <chreekat> it's haskell, MIT, run by Chris Done, Haskell focus, some fun statistics. Does look better than botbot, which I've never heard of
2015-12-03 16:49:55 +0000 <wolftune> chreekat: cool
2015-12-03 16:50:02 +0000 <singpolyma> +1 public logging
2015-12-03 16:50:41 +0000 <wolftune> okay fine
2015-12-03 16:51:15 +0000 <JazzyEagle> We're an open source project supporting and requiring open documentation on our site in an open chat room for anyone. Why would anyone be worried about public logging?
2015-12-03 16:51:28 +0000 <wolftune> alright, agreed, logging is fine
2015-12-03 16:51:57 +0000 <wolftune> fpbot: tell fr33domlover with public logging, we can just have fpbot say "you missed X messages" with a link to ircbrowse.net to see them
2015-12-03 16:51:57 +0000 <fpbot> wolftune, your memo for fr33domlover has been saved.
2015-12-03 16:52:07 +0000 <JazzyEagle> Personally, I don't really care much anyway. The only thing I like about the public logging option is I can catch up w/ more than just 10 lines of history should I get disconnected.
2015-12-03 16:52:27 +0000 <chreekat> indeed, and with that, is there still anything snowbot does that fpbot doesn't do?
2015-12-03 16:53:10 +0000 <singpolyma> other rooms I'm in (like #indiewebcamp) people sometimes even link to old bits of public logs for continued discussion/reference
2015-12-03 16:53:19 +0000 <wolftune> chreekat: no, we can kill snowbot, the only issue is having backup of the fpbot code / it will go down if fr33domlover's server goes
2015-12-03 16:59:06 +0000 <JazzyEagle> chreekat: Quick question for you... When you transferred all of the navbar stuff out of the old widget, did you create new functions for the user's remaining balance and total pledges?
2015-12-03 16:59:58 +0000 <JazzyEagle> That's probably the only thing missing from the navbar at this time, and I didn't know if we wanted to try to tackle this while I'm wiring it up.
2015-12-03 17:10:02 +0000 <wolftune> JazzyEagle: mray doesn't want that in the navbar
2015-12-03 17:10:54 +0000 <wolftune> JazzyEagle: we *will* need that data to be present on the user's landing page, and we can go back in the git history to get that code if we don't decide that we'd rather handle it a different way
2015-12-03 17:12:44 +0000 <JazzyEagle> I'm not sure I agree with that. Some of the stuff he wanted on the navbar originally are things that aren't really useful after someone gets familiar with the website... A "How It Works" link. They're not going to use that on a regular basis. A link to Project Signup... A common patron may never need that, and those wanting to start a project won't need it after a project is set up. Why have those in
2015-12-03 17:12:47 +0000 <JazzyEagle> the navbar?
2015-12-03 17:13:37 +0000 <JazzyEagle> What we need in the navbar are things that will be useful on a regular basis. The search bar, though I'm not sure how exactly that will ultimately work, makes sense. The list of links under the username makes sense.
2015-12-03 17:13:44 +0000 <JazzyEagle> The avatar is nice, but not necessary.
2015-12-03 17:16:35 +0000 <wolftune> JazzyEagle: I agree with you, but aside from discussing with mray, he's the designer. So, we can and should express our opinions, but it's not okay to overrule him and just put things back in the navbar that he doesn't want just because we're doing the coding
2015-12-03 17:17:10 +0000 <wolftune> he felt that the numbers in the navbar make people focus too much on tracking the numbers where they should instead just check them when they have a reason to
2015-12-03 17:17:43 +0000 <wolftune> FWIW, I agree with you that some of the stuff in the navbar design may not make full sense
2015-12-03 17:23:03 +0000 <JazzyEagle> wolftune: Ok, now that response is a little concerning to me, as mray keeps saying he's focusing on the design itself and not specifically the content.
2015-12-03 17:23:30 +0000 <JazzyEagle> And even when asking about the footer, you told me to go ahead and make decisions about things.
2015-12-03 17:23:36 +0000 <JazzyEagle> So, I was making changes to what links existed.
2015-12-03 17:25:00 +0000 <wolftune> JazzyEagle: some of mray's mockups are not reflecting a final design decision
2015-12-03 17:25:18 +0000 <JazzyEagle> wolftune: The problem is, there IS no final design decision.