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2015-05-28 07:04:22 +0200 <ddddd_> where is juliette aweseome!
2015-05-28 07:09:30 +0200 <Kristallo> how do I know you are not juliette?
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2015-05-28 11:29:02 +0200 <butyoudonot> where can I get the LazyList class? there are a couple of source libraries like powerpack, old powerpack and fsharpx.extras - which one should I choose?
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2015-05-28 14:18:42 +0200 <butyoudonot> I guess this is it https://github.com/fsprojects/FSharpx.Collections/blob/master/src/FSharpx.Collections/LazyList.fs
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2015-05-28 14:26:01 +0200 <hugosthlm> I am thinking about learning F#. Is that a good idea? Are there any jobs?
2015-05-28 14:28:16 +0200 <hugosthlm> I tried these tutorials. Most of them didn't seem to work. I couldn't even make them work by changing the code. http://www.tryfsharp.org/Learn
2015-05-28 14:30:19 +0200 <RandomStranger> There aren't many jobs (at least in my area, Germany). But it helps you with functional thinking, which will probably even benefit you when writing regular procedural and OOP code.
2015-05-28 14:30:30 +0200 <RandomStranger> And that website requires Silverlight.
2015-05-28 14:30:39 +0200 <hugosthlm> It seems like a cool language.
2015-05-28 14:30:49 +0200 <RandomStranger> Best option is to be on Windows and download Visual Studio 2013 Community Edition (it's free).
2015-05-28 14:30:52 +0200 <RandomStranger> Work calls, brb
2015-05-28 14:30:58 +0200 <hugosthlm> RandomStranger: I have Silverlight. Some of it worked.
2015-05-28 14:31:25 +0200 <butyoudonot> hugosthlm: why not haskell?
2015-05-28 14:32:25 +0200 <hugosthlm> The problems started here: http://www.tryfsharp.org/Learn/data-science#world-bank-type-provider
2015-05-28 14:33:08 +0200 <hugosthlm> butyoudonot: At least in London there seemed to be more F# jobs.
2015-05-28 14:34:11 +0200 <hugosthlm> butyoudonot: I tried some Haskell, but there seem to be some major problems with repositories if you want to get something stable to run in production.
2015-05-28 14:34:36 +0200 <hugosthlm> butyoudonot: Erling is another possibility, or clojure.
2015-05-28 14:34:43 +0200 <hugosthlm> Erlang
2015-05-28 14:34:56 +0200idegen(~greg@static-50-53-108-129.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net)
2015-05-28 14:35:26 +0200 <hugosthlm> butyoudonot: At least Erlang is made for production use.
2015-05-28 14:36:08 +0200 <hugosthlm> butyoudonot: Haskell is the real thing, yes.
2015-05-28 14:36:58 +0200 <Kristallo> learning F# is always a good idea because what you learn will make you a better programmer in any language, but I think you have to be pretty good at it to get a pure F# job
2015-05-28 14:38:05 +0200 <hugosthlm> Kristallo: If you had a F# job for many years you can get a F# job?
2015-05-28 14:39:51 +0200 <Kristallo> there is not a lot of F# jobs available so if you are not a very good F# programmer I don't think it will easy to get one of those jobs
2015-05-28 14:40:13 +0200 <Kristallo> the stackoverflow survey said that F# jobs are very well paid
2015-05-28 14:42:41 +0200 <hugosthlm> Kristallo: I got my first job as APL programmer because I had a four hour APL lecture. I was accepted to do practise at a company, which later employed me.
2015-05-28 14:42:48 +0200 <butyoudonot> > but there seem to be some major problems with repositories if you want to get something stable to run in production <--- what kind of problems are you talking about?
2015-05-28 14:42:53 +0200 <hugosthlm> Kristallo: Yes, I saw that.
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2015-05-28 14:43:19 +0200 <butyoudonot> APL programmer job? ohwow
2015-05-28 14:45:24 +0200 <hugosthlm> butyoudonot: There seem to be no consistent repositories with compiled packages. You use source code, and rebuild everything for each installed application.
2015-05-28 14:46:25 +0200 <hugosthlm> butyoudonot: I was an APL programmer and an APL consultant, but no more.
2015-05-28 14:47:40 +0200 <butyoudonot> hugosthlm: there is, take a look at nix/nixops/hydra stuff
2015-05-28 14:48:57 +0200 <hugosthlm> butyoudonot: However, it wouldn't surprise me if someone with a four hour lecture could still get an APL programmer job or a Haskell or Erling or Clojure or F# job. At least in Sweden, the job market is not as you would expect it to be.
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2015-05-28 16:06:14 +0200 <RandomStranger> You also gotta see _where_ the F# jobs are available.
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2015-05-28 17:55:37 +0200 <i_s> with paket, if I want to add a reference to a system assembly like System.Data.Linq, I should add it via visual studio add reference instead of the paket.references file?
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2015-05-28 18:43:47 +0200 <RandomStranger> p13 Please read the topic.
2015-05-28 18:44:41 +0200 <RandomStranger> Shit, wrong channel.
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